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Green Power Takes Root in the Chinese Desert

NEW YORK TIMES -- DUNHUANG, China — As the United States takes its first steps toward mandating that power companies generate more electricity from renewable sources, China already has a similar requirement and is investing billions to remake itself into a green energy superpower.

Through a combination of carrots and sticks, Beijing is starting to change how this country generates energy. Although coal remains the biggest energy source and is almost certain to stay that way, the rise of renewable energy, especially wind power, is helping to slow China’s steep growth in emissions of global warming gases.

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Submitted Jul 04, 2009 By: JOHNNY95206

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TeachR06 Champion Author Raleigh Posts:3,535 Points:1,012,760 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 6:38:10 AM Ignore TeachR06 Report Abuse Sounds great! Let's get moving in North America
neptune2008 Champion Author Michigan Posts:3,620 Points:713,305 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 6:36:19 AM Ignore neptune2008 Report Abuse good for them...lets try and catch up...
Prescottonian Champion Author Ontario Posts:1,183 Points:527,395 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 6:30:37 AM Ignore Prescottonian Report Abuse Good for the Chinese, we all need to do our part, and certainly it was critical for China to do so.
theduster1 Champion Author Texas Posts:1,411 Points:318,490 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 6:21:49 AM Ignore theduster1 Report Abuse it is about time somebody started doing something instead of talking all the time about it
BH24 Champion Author Arkansas Posts:4,930 Points:1,116,675 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 6:12:29 AM Ignore BH24 Report Abuse Leave it to the New Yokk Times to praise the efforts of any rival nation that is doing something that they'd like to see our nation invoolved in.
BM4225 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:5,469 Points:1,176,195 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 5:54:30 AM Ignore BM4225 Report Abuse Hey they got the money to spend on it. They got it from us, by selling their products to us, we intern sent our money over there, instead of paying Americans to produce the same products. Those that use to produce those products, now work at the Big Box that imports those products. Now those factory worker have no health insurance, or pensions, but they do get to work in an environmentally controlled work area, for half the pay, and no benefits.
gibber73 Sophomore Author Columbus Posts:165 Points:208,150 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 5:52:45 AM Ignore gibber73 Report Abuse Everyone should be working on alternative power. However, it shouldn't be forced on us.
lpj Champion Author Macon Posts:7,396 Points:1,525,090 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 5:48:11 AM Ignore lpj Report Abuse that means they are going to find something beside coal to use in future !!!
skybiker Champion Author South Carolina Posts:3,335 Points:662,230 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 5:43:40 AM Ignore skybiker Report Abuse How much are you willing to pay to get 100% clean emissions? Double? Triple?. Coal plants are 95% clean now. Should we double our electric costs to get the last 5%? Will it make any difference? All these years the Left has stopped new Nuclear plants that could have been online producing no emissions. Now you say carbon dioxide is a pollutant. Any BS to get more government control. You take away our freedom and want to tax us into misery. I'm sick of all you old hippies and your hatred of the Human race and worship of the Planet.....
Petrock Champion Author Lexington Posts:4,413 Points:1,602,530 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 5:41:13 AM Ignore Petrock Report Abuse I doubt seriously that this "green power" is any more than superficial. Until the rest of the world applies financial pressure on China they will continue to use coal for most of their energy. They are using a lot of oil as well.
Bus561 Champion Author Lexington Posts:11,482 Points:2,241,650 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 5:35:55 AM Ignore Bus561 Report Abuse We can do the same thing.
theawesome1 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:3,646 Points:807,215 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 5:09:49 AM Ignore theawesome1 Report Abuse With all their smog as experienced at the Olympics & it is worse today, it is about time that they gave in to cleaning up. Japan & India are next.
fratt Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:4,939 Points:1,669,255 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 5:04:45 AM Ignore fratt Report Abuse Sounds like a great idea, We should follow their lead!
twobroke61 Champion Author Michigan Posts:3,443 Points:620,810 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 5:00:06 AM Ignore twobroke61 Report Abuse and again China is ahead of the U.S. and where do you think they got there billions to invest from there imports too our country
Jethroy Champion Author Toronto Posts:4,042 Points:738,465 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 4:58:14 AM Ignore Jethroy Report Abuse so the United States is really trying to get away for foreign oil Eh
Mark929 Champion Author Oakland Posts:3,165 Points:619,360 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 4:47:16 AM Ignore Mark929 Report Abuse Salute to green power.
bad_sailor Champion Author London Posts:2,979 Points:724,155 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 4:41:08 AM Ignore bad_sailor Report Abuse Interesting inovations.
vulcan96 Champion Author Ohio Posts:17,929 Points:2,129,120 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 4:24:37 AM Ignore vulcan96 Report Abuse sounds like a very good thing !
NavyEOD Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:5,149 Points:1,060,590 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 4:24:30 AM Ignore NavyEOD Report Abuse Watch out China will soon take over the world. Why are we not paying attetion.
TIGERPAW46 Champion Author Florida Posts:2,776 Points:523,325 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 3:44:23 AM Ignore TIGERPAW46 Report Abuse The article also says they already get 21% of their Electric from Hydroelectric. However, they WERE building two new Coal power plants every week and were the worst polluting country in the world.. Therefore, it's good they are starting to convert. They can certainly afford it with all the money they made off the USA while using their cheaper Coal. Too bad we didn't make a bundle off other countries. Even so, >"Some top Chinese regulators even worry that Beijing’s mandates are pushing companies too far too fast. The companies may be deliberately underbidding for the right to build new projects and then planning to go back to the government later and demand compensation once the projects lose money"<. Using more Green energy is good we just can't afford to do it right now the way they are mandating in the USA with the Cap & Trade Penalties which will raise the cost of energy. China is still going to be the biggest polluter for awhile >"is helping to slow China’s steep growth in emissions... construction of coal-fired plants having slowed to one a week and still falling"< since these will only help offset some of the increased consumption they predict. Also remember India's intention to put a cheap vehicle in the hands of a large portion of their Gigantic population. [Edited by: TIGERPAW46 at 7/5/2009 3:49:26 AM EST]
gass12 Champion Author Omaha Posts:3,616 Points:1,340,590 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 3:36:34 AM Ignore gass12 Report Abuse China has to do something-If they don!t they will not be around in 100 years from now.
EZExit Champion Author Phoenix Posts:3,850 Points:729,535 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 3:36:29 AM Ignore EZExit Report Abuse China is quickly becoming the world superpower that we used to be here in the US. It is gratifying to see that they are starting to become responsible.
dano50 Champion Author Riverside Posts:3,309 Points:684,730 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 3:26:47 AM Ignore dano50 Report Abuse Good for them.
SeerLV Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:3,488 Points:715,735 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 3:26:15 AM Ignore SeerLV Report Abuse We should do the same.
MPGKing All-Star Author New Jersey Posts:874 Points:227,570 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 3:21:06 AM Ignore MPGKing Report Abuse With such a large, developing economy China has a definate impact on energy usage. Any step in the right direction is welcome.
rwm1 Champion Author Iowa Posts:1,941 Points:842,075 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 3:16:58 AM Ignore rwm1 Report Abuse This is good! There is plenty of wind and sun for all. If China also joins the green movement, I'd say that is the death knell for OPEC.
vibdata Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:1,762 Points:387,120 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 3:12:43 AM Ignore vibdata Report Abuse If the Chinese buy gas in quantity, they will cause prices to soar.
WheresMyTruck Champion Author Tacoma Posts:4,013 Points:511,075 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 3:10:44 AM Ignore WheresMyTruck Report Abuse With their ever growing population China had better do something green.
FASTR1 Champion Author Michigan Posts:5,265 Points:837,620 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 3:10:25 AM Ignore FASTR1 Report Abuse Investing billions, jeesh, I just want a few million.
findcheap Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:4,658 Points:1,032,715 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 3:09:14 AM Ignore findcheap Report Abuse I don't believe it
C4U Champion Author Salt Lake City Posts:4,270 Points:817,620 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 2:54:09 AM Ignore C4U Report Abuse Wonder when America is going to start down the renewable track?
humblepie Champion Author Toledo Posts:7,984 Points:1,396,015 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 2:54:08 AM Ignore humblepie Report Abuse soon they can start that program here after all they just about own us now if obama doesnt quit printing money our future is decided
cutter1330 Champion Author Oklahoma Posts:3,126 Points:719,160 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 2:53:19 AM Ignore cutter1330 Report Abuse With China's thirst for energy this is good.
cruisingtx Champion Author San Antonio Posts:1,201 Points:527,695 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 2:51:29 AM Ignore cruisingtx Report Abuse Sound great!
bosrs All-Star Author Seattle Posts:863 Points:399,235 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 2:48:45 AM Ignore bosrs Report Abuse good job...
Tarzan05 Rookie Author Los Angeles Posts:24 Points:21,340 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 2:48:04 AM Ignore Tarzan05 Report Abuse i agree.
SeerLV Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:3,488 Points:715,735 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 2:43:30 AM Ignore SeerLV Report Abuse We need to cut importing energy.
RLH68 Champion Author Orlando Posts:3,961 Points:732,000 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 2:32:49 AM Ignore RLH68 Report Abuse Good for China. Now if the rest of the world would follow suit.
joel27nc Champion Author Raleigh Posts:5,528 Points:887,795 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 2:25:21 AM Ignore joel27nc Report Abuse It sounds as though things are slowly moving in the right direction.
FISHERW All-Star Author Winnipeg Posts:516 Points:284,215 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 2:23:59 AM Ignore FISHERW Report Abuse China is getting better
nurdco Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:3,816 Points:716,105 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 2:12:40 AM Ignore nurdco Report Abuse They have Cheaper Resources CALLed people... the USA does NOT...
ED6 Champion Author Riverside Posts:5,149 Points:1,000,710 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 2:10:13 AM Ignore ED6 Report Abuse At least they are doing something.
winggnutt Champion Author Detroit Posts:6,332 Points:1,426,900 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 2:06:28 AM Ignore winggnutt Report Abuse with their billion and a half population, they will likley never catch up...
artyboy Champion Author Miami Posts:2,114 Points:551,595 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 2:05:54 AM Ignore artyboy Report Abuse hear hear
52MPG Champion Author Dayton Posts:2,319 Points:769,285 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 2:05:39 AM Ignore 52MPG Report Abuse Another government run program.
RENEGADEGAS Champion Author Missouri Posts:7,668 Points:617,130 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 1:57:35 AM Ignore RENEGADEGAS Report Abuse God help them....Havent they learned anything by watching the way the US has gone to hell? I hope they stop before its to late and end up like this pathetic excuse for what used to be the United States of America. Cant wait till 2012 so we cant start un-doing all this garbage.
Saturn93 Champion Author Salt Lake City Posts:4,230 Points:1,012,815 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 1:56:20 AM Ignore Saturn93 Report Abuse Good to know that China is at least making a token effort to reduce emissions.
Amtrgas Champion Author Oakland Posts:2,138 Points:785,265 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 1:56:19 AM Ignore Amtrgas Report Abuse The United States needs to get on top of GREEN Technology.
pbc2001 Champion Author Dallas Posts:2,311 Points:416,430 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 1:49:16 AM Ignore pbc2001 Report Abuse Government is more involved in their economic decisions.
furiousfowl Champion Author Riverside Posts:11,960 Points:1,824,670 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 1:49:15 AM Ignore furiousfowl Report Abuse bout time they did something good
sethubala Rookie Author Houston Posts:43 Points:360,960 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 1:44:37 AM Ignore sethubala Report Abuse chinese are growing faster than anyone