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The solar envelope: how to heat and cool cities without fossil fuels

Energy Bulletin -- Modern buildings rely on a massive supply of cheap fossil fuels for heating, cooling, and lighting. Take the supply of cheap fossil fuels away, and they become completely uninhabitable for most of the year: they are too cold, too hot or too dark. This radical change in architectural design was caused by both the arrival of cheap and abundant energy sources and the resultant urbanisation. The Industrial Revolution relocated millions of people from the countryside to the cities. When most of us lived and worked on farms or in hamlets, it was fairly easy to orientate one's house towards the sun. In an urban environment, however, building orientation is generally determined by street layout, and one building can easily overshadow another. High-rise buildings further complicate solar access.

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Submitted Mar 28, 2012 By: eromitlab
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TIGERPAW46
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 2:29:27 AM

Energy from Solar, water, wind, & fire (from wood etc.) were being used long before Petroleum. It became King because of efficiency & availability among other reasons. To replace it you have to build "the better mouse trap" and they haven't been able to succeed in that so far. Thus Government again is trying to force something onto the people that isn't really in existence yet.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 1:23:41 AM

Wow! Some complicated stuff in that article, but well worth thinking about for newer projects being built.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 1:09:28 AM

Really.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 1:09:20 AM

So?????
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 12:58:40 AM

Ok
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 12:56:56 AM

Ok, how?
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 12:54:43 AM

As the article points out, we don't need to rely on fossil fuels. Time for alternate energy.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 12:50:05 AM

This isn't a post, it's a text book!
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 12:49:31 AM

very expensive and not realistic
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 12:47:18 AM

Makes sense.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 12:46:37 AM

yes yes
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 12:46:05 AM

OK............
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ok
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 12:43:55 AM

interesting point
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 12:41:48 AM


Has anyone noticed that yer basement is warmer in the winter and cooler in the summer? Hmmm, this info may be useful.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 12:41:37 AM

Makes sense, course you'd have to level most of the cities and start over.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 12:39:09 AM

do it
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Price didn't matter when Jeds' Texan shoes were soaked in bubblin' crude.
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ok
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 12:36:05 AM

Needless to say, our fore-fathers didn't take this into consideration 200 years ago!
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Only time will tell.
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"Gonna get back to the land, set my soul free".
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Only good in certain areas
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bring it on
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Common sense is not common to everyone!
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 3:11:58 PM

Interesting...but a couple thousand years too late! How are we gonna rearrange all the existing buildings now?
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 12:03:14 PM

Move the cities to Hawaii.
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 11:55:17 AM

That was a slog, but worthwhile and interesting. Mostly glad we live in suburbia, while we are stuck with the direction the house faces we don't have to worry about other factors.
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 9:55:08 AM

Interesting article.
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 9:17:27 AM

well there you go. Let's just tear everything down and start over.
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 8:12:41 AM

Neat article.
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 7:56:51 AM

Great!
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 7:47:48 AM

A very helpful article here. Thanks for posting this.
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 7:47:20 AM

Makes a lot of sense to me. They need to teach this kind of stuff in architecture schools.
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 7:45:02 AM

Love simplicity.
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 7:42:07 AM

Great idea, and thanks the poster for this one. eromitlab.

I working on forming a solar Hot water company, but in my research have decide to make shop building solar heated in the winter, through simple hear exchanger system on the south catherdal ceiling.
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"Cool" and smart!
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 7:23:27 AM

Looks cool - doubt we would go this way for quite a while
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 7:22:54 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 6:51:47 AM

Common sense but there really is no technogially to make this workable.
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 6:40:20 AM

Density is a pet subject of environmentalists, who argue that densely populated cities are the solution to lower the energy requirements for transportation. On the other hand, the solar envelope shows that above a certain treshold, density can also raise energy requirements, in particular those of heating, cooling and daylighting buildings.
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This common sense has gone out the window - when greed became more important...
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 6:05:33 AM


More of this should be done. Common sense at work!
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 6:05:07 AM

Oh!
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 5:58:50 AM

Well, this one makes sense. My inlaws figured this out 35 years ago.
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 5:41:19 AM

Interesting...
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 5:21:07 AM

I agree it is a great article!
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 4:36:18 AM

Great article, crazy commenter below the article which is worth the read too.
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 4:25:32 AM

A very interesting article. So the next time mother nature destroys a city, we can build structures described in the article.
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 4:18:26 AM

Can it work economically and without ruining my life?
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time to fix it
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